12-04-11, 08:58 AM
16-01-12, 09:29 AM
Solo per aggiungere che il 10 gennaio 2012 si ? spento Luca Grandori, indimenticato direttore di Autocapital. Devo a lui moltissimo in fatto di cultura motoristica, attraverso il sui giornale negli anni '80 mi aiut? a conoscere il mondo delle auto classiche. Non pi? e non solo sbuffanti vecchiette impegnate in raduni enogastronomici con portate luculliane degne di un matrimonio, ma instancabili sportive lanciate a tutta velocit? sui tornanti delle Dolomiti o usate tranquillamente per andare in ufficio in centro a Milano (allora si poteva) con una classe che le auto "di moda" del momento non potevano nemmeno lontanamente avvicinare.
Grazie Luca.
Grazie Luca.
16-01-12, 09:36 AM
Mi spiace davvero....un modo nuovo di fare una rivista di auto....
16-01-12, 03:47 PM
[quote name='nigel68' post='400809' date='16/1/2012, 08:32']Solo per aggiungere che il 10 gennaio 2012 si ? spento Luca Grandori, indimenticato direttore di Autocapital. Devo a lui moltissimo in fatto di cultura motoristica, attraverso il sui giornale negli anni '80 mi aiut? a conoscere il mondo delle auto classiche. Non pi? e non solo sbuffanti vecchiette impegnate in raduni enogastronomici con portate luculliane degne di un matrimonio, ma instancabili sportive lanciate a tutta velocit? sui tornanti delle Dolomiti o usate tranquillamente per andare in ufficio in centro a Milano (allora si poteva) con una classe che le auto "di moda" del momento non potevano nemmeno lontanamente avvicinare.
Grazie Luca.[/quote]
Non lo conoscevo personalmente...ma dalle tue parole si evince trattarsi di una "bella persona" ...
Grazie Luca.[/quote]
Non lo conoscevo personalmente...ma dalle tue parole si evince trattarsi di una "bella persona" ...
16-01-12, 09:00 PM
Eeeh,AuitoCapital era una rivista diversa da tutte le altre nell'approccio con il mondo dell'auto, difatti era quella che preferivo. Peccato per Grandori,sicuramente una bella persona, neanche io lo conoscevo (ovviamente...) di persona, ma mi piaceviano i suoi editoriali e il modo di "gestire" la rivista, sempre con l'adeguata dose di buon gusto sia nelle grafiche che nei testi...R.I.P.
09-04-12, 11:29 AM
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Solo per aggiungere che il 10 gennaio 2012 si è spento Luca Grandori, indimenticato direttore di Autocapital. Devo a lui moltissimo in fatto di cultura motoristica, attraverso il sui giornale negli anni '80 mi aiutò a conoscere il mondo delle auto classiche. Non più e non solo sbuffanti vecchiette impegnate in raduni enogastronomici con portate luculliane degne di un matrimonio, ma instancabili sportive lanciate a tutta velocità sui tornanti delle Dolomiti o usate tranquillamente per andare in ufficio in centro a Milano (allora si poteva) con una classe che le auto "di moda" del momento non potevano nemmeno lontanamente avvicinare.
Grazie Luca.
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Mi spiace molto, anch'io acquistavo la bellissima rivista Autocapital e il tuo bel sunto di quel periodo m'ha catapultato in quegli anni non lontani ma già lontanissimi...
Solo per aggiungere che il 10 gennaio 2012 si è spento Luca Grandori, indimenticato direttore di Autocapital. Devo a lui moltissimo in fatto di cultura motoristica, attraverso il sui giornale negli anni '80 mi aiutò a conoscere il mondo delle auto classiche. Non più e non solo sbuffanti vecchiette impegnate in raduni enogastronomici con portate luculliane degne di un matrimonio, ma instancabili sportive lanciate a tutta velocità sui tornanti delle Dolomiti o usate tranquillamente per andare in ufficio in centro a Milano (allora si poteva) con una classe che le auto "di moda" del momento non potevano nemmeno lontanamente avvicinare.
Grazie Luca.
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Mi spiace molto, anch'io acquistavo la bellissima rivista Autocapital e il tuo bel sunto di quel periodo m'ha catapultato in quegli anni non lontani ma già lontanissimi...
09-04-12, 11:40 AM
Su autocapital trovai l'annuncio di vendita della mia prima auto americana che acquistai: 1979 Camaro Berlinetta in condizioni strepitose. ? passato pi? di un ventennio. Bellissima rivista. Dovrei averne ancora diverse conservate.
09-04-12, 11:56 AM
... come non ricordarsi di autocapital....la rivista superiore alle altre.
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15-04-12, 04:02 PM
Per tornare ai vecchi articoli questa pubblicità l'avevo scansionata da una vecchia rivista che non ricordo più il nome era un formato piccolo tipo Selezione. Mr. Lombardi insegnava a fare i miracoli e accelerazioni al fulmicotone
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18-06-12, 06:50 PM
[quote name='funnycar' timestamp='1253632730' post='238579']
La più bella frase di commento è: la Toronado va ma non frena, la Citroen frena ma non va.
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Verissimo! Da (anche) appassionato citroen non posso che confermare! Anche se gli ultimi modelli di DS (ho avuto per un po' una DS 23 Pallas) erano meno "fermi" di quelli originari.... Chissà se riuscirò mai ad avere una Toronado.....
La più bella frase di commento è: la Toronado va ma non frena, la Citroen frena ma non va.
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Verissimo! Da (anche) appassionato citroen non posso che confermare! Anche se gli ultimi modelli di DS (ho avuto per un po' una DS 23 Pallas) erano meno "fermi" di quelli originari.... Chissà se riuscirò mai ad avere una Toronado.....
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18-06-12, 06:54 PM
Topic veramente stupendo! Appena finito di leggere tutte le pagine.
Auto Capital..... Quanti ricordi!!! Il primo numero di quella rivista lo comprai perchè sulla copertina annunciavano un dossier sulla neonata Porsche 911 SC.... correva l'anno...... Lasciamo perdere....
Auto Capital..... Quanti ricordi!!! Il primo numero di quella rivista lo comprai perchè sulla copertina annunciavano un dossier sulla neonata Porsche 911 SC.... correva l'anno...... Lasciamo perdere....
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26-06-12, 10:31 AM
Quattroruote, smesso di comperarlo anni e anni fa quando capii che non erano affatto obiettivi come volevano far credere. A mio parere hanno buttato nel cesso anni di comptetenza e passione.
24-09-13, 10:14 PM
Bellissimo articolo dal New York Times.
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Percé non tenere una macchina per sempre? questa signora ha comprato la Chevy nel 1957 e non ha mai comprato null'altro dopo, ed ancora la usa, Spettacolare.Spettacolare.
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Why Not Keep Your Favorite Car Forever? By BENJAMIN PRESTON
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Cars can be like significant others. If the relationship is tumultuous, you can emerge from it with more gray hair than when it began. But when youâve found âthe one,â thereâs a chance youâll know immediately.
Then again, like Reb Tevye and his wife Golde in âFiddler on the Roof,â it could be decades before you discover your affinity for the faithful companion who has been around for so long. For Grace Braeger, of West Bend, Wis., the connection she has with her 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air has been kind of a mix between the two.
She bought the car new and has been driving it ever since. The same is true of Irv Gordon, the retired Long Island high school teacher who just hit three million miles in his 1966 Volvo 1800S.
So what is it that makes some people keep cars forever and others to discard them after a few years? People in Cuba have done a nice job keeping Detroit iron alive for eons, but theyâve really had no choice. But what if more of us were like them; not because a restrictive economy forced us to be, but because we found ourselves able to really enjoy having the same car for that long?
Personally, Iâve owned quite a few vehicles in my lifetime, but I appreciate where these people seem to be coming from, as there have been a handful that Iâve kept for relatively long periods of time (for me) because utility or some other aspect drew me to them: an â83 Toyota Camry hatchback that I would have kept forever if it hadnât rusted into a heap of red flakes, and my current â86 Subaru GL wagon, which â barring the crash that would certainly end its thin-gauge existence â refuses to die, among one or two others.
As with the denizens of Cuba, necessity can be the decider for many of us when it comes time to decide whether or not to assume the out-with-the-old-in-with-the-new mantra. But sometimes, thereâs some familiarity weâd rather not shed. Owning a car can be such an intimate experience. The way you interact with it â how high you sit, what the steering wheel feels like in your hands, where the controls are located, and, most importantly how you feel when youâre driving it â determines your whole experience.
I called Ms. Braeger to see if she could shed some light on the question of why and how someone could keep a car for as long as she has. In the 2010 YouTube video posted above, she notes that lots of people say they used to have a â57 Chevrolet they should have kept, to which she replies matter of factly, âWell, why didnât you?â
Interestingly enough, her perspective seems to have changed a little over the past few years. When I first learned of her, she just seemed very practical â she is â and someone who doesnât let silly things like avarice cause her to get rid of something perfectly good. Something like the â57 Bel Air of which sheâs been the sole owner.
Hereâs how it happened. Ms. Braeger told me that back in 1957, her 1950 Chevrolet Club coupe seemed like it wasnât going to last much longer. There was some noise coming from it that someone had told her foreshadowed the carâs impending doom. She happened to be in Milwaukee at the time, and noticed a Chevrolet dealership with which she shared a name: Braeger Chevrolet. She met the owner, bought the new Bel Air, and drove it home.
âI guess I just thought Iâd keep it until I needed a new one, but I never needed a new one,â she said. âA lot of other people have had â57 Chevys, and they might be driving them, but itâs not their only car. Itâs my only car.â
Ms. Braeger said that keeping up with the maintenance â changing the oil and getting regular tune-ups and the like â are all part of keeping a car a long time. But she also said the car â which she calls 57 Lady, because thatâs what its license plates say â underwent a 14-month restoration back in the late â80s. Until that time, it had been parked outside for most of its life, and needed some major repairs, including new floor pans and a new interior. Since then, sheâs kept the car in a garage.
âThe interior still looks new because I donât take passengers and I keep it neat.â
Perhaps another reason Ms. Braeger has been able to keep her car for so long is because she stays away from modifications. As anyone who has modified a car knows, thereâs a fine line between sprucing up your ride and ruining for yourself and all future buyers (Iâm talking to you, fake hood scoop installers). She has avoided that risk by keeping the Bel Air as it came from the factory. When she took the car to a show in Milwaukee recently, she admitted to being baffled that a guy whose â57 Chevy had a chrome covered engine and black-walled tires won the top awards.
âIt didnât seem authentic,â she said. âI had an extra set of wide white wall tires that I offered to give him, but he didnât even want them.â
But at the end of the day, Ms. Braeger says she would like to experience new car ownership one more time in her life. As she advances in age into her late 80s, that time is getting shorter. Asked if she would consider selling her beloved â57 Bel Air, she said, âIf I got a really good offer, Iâd sell it.â
She and 57 Lady have been through a lot together. With well over 100,000 miles on the clock, it has been through 23 mufflers â 21 of them, she said, were free under the Midas lifetime guarantee program. She and her car were even featured in a book dedicated to Chevroletâs 100-year anniversary. And although she said she immediately fell for the car when she bought it, and has enjoyed it these many years, she thinks perhaps itâs time to move on. So Ms. Braeger is currently trying to get the car into the Guinness Book of Records for something, anything, in order to get the word out about her one-owner classic.
âAs far as Iâm concerned, I canât get enough publicity so I can raise the value of the car,â she said, adding, â57 Lady is going to be 57 in 2014, and Iâd still like a new car in my lifetime. I really donât know what Iâd chose, though.â
I guess it just goes to show that nothing can last forever.
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Percé non tenere una macchina per sempre? questa signora ha comprato la Chevy nel 1957 e non ha mai comprato null'altro dopo, ed ancora la usa, Spettacolare.Spettacolare.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwcRG2aEi3s
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Why Not Keep Your Favorite Car Forever? By BENJAMIN PRESTON
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Cars can be like significant others. If the relationship is tumultuous, you can emerge from it with more gray hair than when it began. But when youâve found âthe one,â thereâs a chance youâll know immediately.
Then again, like Reb Tevye and his wife Golde in âFiddler on the Roof,â it could be decades before you discover your affinity for the faithful companion who has been around for so long. For Grace Braeger, of West Bend, Wis., the connection she has with her 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air has been kind of a mix between the two.
She bought the car new and has been driving it ever since. The same is true of Irv Gordon, the retired Long Island high school teacher who just hit three million miles in his 1966 Volvo 1800S.
So what is it that makes some people keep cars forever and others to discard them after a few years? People in Cuba have done a nice job keeping Detroit iron alive for eons, but theyâve really had no choice. But what if more of us were like them; not because a restrictive economy forced us to be, but because we found ourselves able to really enjoy having the same car for that long?
Personally, Iâve owned quite a few vehicles in my lifetime, but I appreciate where these people seem to be coming from, as there have been a handful that Iâve kept for relatively long periods of time (for me) because utility or some other aspect drew me to them: an â83 Toyota Camry hatchback that I would have kept forever if it hadnât rusted into a heap of red flakes, and my current â86 Subaru GL wagon, which â barring the crash that would certainly end its thin-gauge existence â refuses to die, among one or two others.
As with the denizens of Cuba, necessity can be the decider for many of us when it comes time to decide whether or not to assume the out-with-the-old-in-with-the-new mantra. But sometimes, thereâs some familiarity weâd rather not shed. Owning a car can be such an intimate experience. The way you interact with it â how high you sit, what the steering wheel feels like in your hands, where the controls are located, and, most importantly how you feel when youâre driving it â determines your whole experience.
I called Ms. Braeger to see if she could shed some light on the question of why and how someone could keep a car for as long as she has. In the 2010 YouTube video posted above, she notes that lots of people say they used to have a â57 Chevrolet they should have kept, to which she replies matter of factly, âWell, why didnât you?â
Interestingly enough, her perspective seems to have changed a little over the past few years. When I first learned of her, she just seemed very practical â she is â and someone who doesnât let silly things like avarice cause her to get rid of something perfectly good. Something like the â57 Bel Air of which sheâs been the sole owner.
Hereâs how it happened. Ms. Braeger told me that back in 1957, her 1950 Chevrolet Club coupe seemed like it wasnât going to last much longer. There was some noise coming from it that someone had told her foreshadowed the carâs impending doom. She happened to be in Milwaukee at the time, and noticed a Chevrolet dealership with which she shared a name: Braeger Chevrolet. She met the owner, bought the new Bel Air, and drove it home.
âI guess I just thought Iâd keep it until I needed a new one, but I never needed a new one,â she said. âA lot of other people have had â57 Chevys, and they might be driving them, but itâs not their only car. Itâs my only car.â
Ms. Braeger said that keeping up with the maintenance â changing the oil and getting regular tune-ups and the like â are all part of keeping a car a long time. But she also said the car â which she calls 57 Lady, because thatâs what its license plates say â underwent a 14-month restoration back in the late â80s. Until that time, it had been parked outside for most of its life, and needed some major repairs, including new floor pans and a new interior. Since then, sheâs kept the car in a garage.
âThe interior still looks new because I donât take passengers and I keep it neat.â
Perhaps another reason Ms. Braeger has been able to keep her car for so long is because she stays away from modifications. As anyone who has modified a car knows, thereâs a fine line between sprucing up your ride and ruining for yourself and all future buyers (Iâm talking to you, fake hood scoop installers). She has avoided that risk by keeping the Bel Air as it came from the factory. When she took the car to a show in Milwaukee recently, she admitted to being baffled that a guy whose â57 Chevy had a chrome covered engine and black-walled tires won the top awards.
âIt didnât seem authentic,â she said. âI had an extra set of wide white wall tires that I offered to give him, but he didnât even want them.â
But at the end of the day, Ms. Braeger says she would like to experience new car ownership one more time in her life. As she advances in age into her late 80s, that time is getting shorter. Asked if she would consider selling her beloved â57 Bel Air, she said, âIf I got a really good offer, Iâd sell it.â
She and 57 Lady have been through a lot together. With well over 100,000 miles on the clock, it has been through 23 mufflers â 21 of them, she said, were free under the Midas lifetime guarantee program. She and her car were even featured in a book dedicated to Chevroletâs 100-year anniversary. And although she said she immediately fell for the car when she bought it, and has enjoyed it these many years, she thinks perhaps itâs time to move on. So Ms. Braeger is currently trying to get the car into the Guinness Book of Records for something, anything, in order to get the word out about her one-owner classic.
âAs far as Iâm concerned, I canât get enough publicity so I can raise the value of the car,â she said, adding, â57 Lady is going to be 57 in 2014, and Iâd still like a new car in my lifetime. I really donât know what Iâd chose, though.â
I guess it just goes to show that nothing can last forever.
25-09-13, 12:26 PM
Bella storia, sembra la risposta al nuovo spot pubblicitario della Toyota...
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25-09-13, 12:53 PM
Citazione:non so come si dica per termini pc ma posso dire SCANSATEVI quando passo con la mia Torino :ciappa:
Cosa vuoi dire con ; Scansisci ?????
04-10-13, 02:42 PM
Possiamo continuare con questo topic?
E' bellissimo e darebbe l'opportunità di vedere come erano gli anni 70 a tutti quelli che in quegli anni sono nati!
(e pertanto erano troppo piccoli per capire/ricordare)
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Questa è una "preghiera" che faccio ai vecchi del forum: scansite e postate!
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Grazie.
E' bellissimo e darebbe l'opportunità di vedere come erano gli anni 70 a tutti quelli che in quegli anni sono nati!
(e pertanto erano troppo piccoli per capire/ricordare)
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Questa è una "preghiera" che faccio ai vecchi del forum: scansite e postate!
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Grazie.
15-10-13, 02:50 PM
Da Car Review di Novembre 1986. Le 50 mucle cars pià veloci della storia; prove dell'epoca sul quarto di miglio.
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25-10-13, 08:35 AM
Citazione:Bellissimo articolo dal New York Times.Â
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Perché non tenere una macchina per sempre? questa signora ha comprato la Chevy nel 1957 e non ha mai comprato null'altro dopo, ed ancora la usa, Spettacolare.Spettacolare.
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perchè siamo in Italia.
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Bellissima storia, ma qua non c'è spazio per questo tipo di sentimentalismo.
Anche mia madre aveva una macchina da tanti anni, c'era affezionata, si trovava benissimo e la teneva con cura. Era proprio la sua macchina... E' stata poi OBBLIGATA a rottamarla perchè a torino hanno deciso che non poteva più circolare (in quanto ovviamente eruo 0), senza tante parole. In pieno stile dittatoriale.
La signora qui sopra è stata fortunata a non vivere in Italia, sennò la sua bella storia era già bella che finita.
25-10-13, 09:00 AM
Scusa non bastava montare un impianto GPL ? Poi sei sicuro che anche a Torino non possono circolare in esenzione (come a Milano) le storiche iscritte nei registri :hum:
25-10-13, 09:16 AM
Citazione:Da Car Review di Novembre 1986. Le 50 mucle cars pià veloci della storia; prove dell'epoca sul quarto di miglio.Â
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