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Fanali a scomparsa
#21
La riviera piace parecchio anche a me...
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#22
Bellissima la Riviera, ma semplicemente stupefacente il sistema di apertura dei fanali!!!! :yeaaah: :hum: :tri: Non l'avevo mai visto e ora mi ha stregato!



Girovagando su YouTube non ? che si trovi moltissimo in merito alle hideaway headlights, ma qualche risultato l'ho avuto e lo posto qui:



[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foKHKuhz0oE"]1968 Ford Galaxie[/url] - Il video non ? il massimo, il cameraman sembra un tarantolato...



[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOScfQKoBJ0"]1969 Mercury Cougar[/url] - L'auto ? ancora in fase di restauro ma si vedono i fanali in azione;



[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFqoJGKJ8Q8&feature=related"]1967 Oldsmobile Toronado[/url] - Un'auto che mi ha sempre affascinato e che come molte altre ho sempre visto a fanali spenti. Merita vedere tutto il servizio! Bellissima!



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#23
La Toro ? in uno stato FANTASTICO... quella ? una macchina.
"Indicare se cieco, sordo, scemo di mente o mentecatto" - Censimento del Regno d'Italia, 1861.




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#24
Copio questo interessantissimo articolo sui fanali a scomparsa:



Concealed headlights have appeared on many automotive makes and models over the years (see partial list, at right). Often found on luxury models or muscle cars, concealed headlights can be a design element as well as a functional consideration, depending on the car. Before the mid-sixties, hidden headlights were rarely seen, and were a novelty that appeared on just a few cars. But beginning with the 1965 Buick Riviera, they became a popular feature for the rest of the decade, although their moment at the top would be brief. In fact, the very car that was responsible for their popularity can also be credited in part for their demise.



There were several popular ways to incorporate this feature, and most were determined by styling considerations. Covers over the lights that matched the surrounding panels be they grille work or a painted nose cone of some type could be made to flip up, rotate up or down, or slide sideways while the headlamps themselves remained stationary. Or the assemblies the headlamps were mounted to could rotate to expose or conceal the beams. This was normally accomplished with vacuum or electrical power, and sometimes multiple motors were used as well.



These systems were relatively trouble free, however when a widespread malfunction occurred, it didn't take long for it to be noticed by the Department of Transportation, since automobile lighting systems were considered a safety issue. Usually, the cover or assembly would fail to move and expose the lights when the headlights were turned on, which made the car unsafe to drive at night. Often, all that was needed was a gentle push on the moving part to free it up, but sometimes a loose or kinked vacuum line was to blame, or a loose electrical connection or bad relay was the culprit. At any rate, before long concealed headlights on automobiles had caught the attention of the Federal Government, and it wasn't long before regulations were being enacted to protect the public.



One of the concerns that caught attention was the manner in which the 1966 Buick Riviera headlights rotated into position. On this particular model, the headlight assembly in its entirety rotated to expose the beams. When off, the headlights would point straight up, facing the underside of the closed hood. A matching grille panel on the rotating assembly aligned with the stationary grille which provided the hidden effect. The issue was what happened when the lights were turned on. Once turned on, the sealed beams themselves lit up immediately, and the assembly began to rotate to expose the lights. For a brief second, while rotating, the lights could blind oncoming drivers as they rotated down into position.



To be fair, the 1966 Riviera wasn't the only car with this design. All Rivieras from 1966-1969 used this design, as did the 1968-1969 Oldsmobile Toronados. Other manufacturers were getting complaints about their designs as well, especially from consumers. For instance, in 1969 Ford added springs to the hidden headlight feature on all of its cars so equipped. These springs were designed to open the covers if a problem developed with the vacuum system, which meant lots of new Fords were sitting around with half-open headlight covers if they hadn't been started in a few days.



For the 1969 model year, a fail-safe design was required that opened the covers automatically in the event of a vacuum system failure, and beginning in 1970, a requirement was in place that specified the covers took no more than 3 seconds to open. Actually, the 3-second limit was slated for 1969, but the car companies said they needed another year to develop the mechanism that would allow that. It is reported that the fail-safe design was proposed after some early 1967 Cougar models developed a problem that would cause the headlights to disappear at night. The problem was promptly corrected, but Washington received enough complaints about the concealed headlamp design that they felt legislation was required.



As luck would have it, the public wasn't as enamored with hidden headlights as they had been, due in part to problems with them, so quite a few cars dropped them for 1970. The cars that continued with them had new standards to meet, such as the amount of time it took for the cover to move out of the way and expose the headlights would be limited to a maximum of 4 seconds. This meant that fancy rotating assemblies would now (in most cases) be history. And more systems would be operated electrically, as it was faster for an electric motor to accomplish this task than it was for a vacuum motor, although some makes such as Lincoln (1970-1984), Mercury (1970-1978 Marquis), and Ford (1975-1978 LTD Landau), continued with vacuum motors assisted by powerful springs to snap the covers open quickly when the headlights were turned on.



In the case of Lincoln, the springs became an issue. Due to the design, vacuum was required to maintain the covers in the closed position, and since the springs were constantly attempting to open the covers, the leak down rate for the vacuum system could happen rather quickly. This meant new Lincolns sitting on dealer lots with the headlight covers partially or fully open. This required Lincoln dealers to start their in-stock units frequently enough to keep the vacuum reservoirs replenished, as the appearance of cars for sale with open covers wasn't a good selling feature.



Another issue involving the springs was fuel economy. Internal documents at Ford indicated that fuel economy would suffer to some extent, as the engine was constantly fighting the springs by applying vacuum to keep the covers down. This was most evident on the 1969 Ford Thunderbird and 1969-1971 Continental Mark III, which used one vacuum motor for each headlight cover. Later cars would use just one motor to reduce engine load, and minimize the possibility of vacuum leaks and the amount of vacuum required during engine shut down to maintain the covers in the closed position.



Still, it wasn't unusual to see Ford products of this era with their covers slowly creeping open if the car hadn't been driven recently. And as they aged, this leak down rate could happen fairly quickly, sometimes within a matter of hours, which was an issue for dealers attempting to sell used cars with hidden headlights. Admittedly, there was a malfunction somewhere causing this, but the fact is that the electric motors used by other manufacturers seemed to perform better over a longer period of time, without the need for repairs when they were only a few years old.



Today, it's rare to see cars on the road of any vintage with concealed headlights, and even more rare to find them in operable condition. Time takes its toll on all things mechanical, and when rotating parts get dirty or rusty, or vacuum seals dry up and crack, problems arise.



Hidden headlights have now gone the way of all the other things that used to make automobiles unique, including styling touches that made them stand out. Add them to the list with interiors offered in more than just black, gray, and beige; offering more than just 5 exterior paint colors (you used to be able to choose from 20...sometimes more!); and the ability to order options individually, instead of paying for a package with a bunch of stuff you really don't want.



All this comes at a time when the American automobile industry is reeling from lack of sales and huge losses. At the time of this writing, General Motors and Chrysler are talking about merging. GM has enough cash to last 12 months, and Ford has enough to make it 18.



Could it be the time has come for the American auto makers to stop trying to build foreign cars and give Americans what they want? Try something new...or rather, old...for a change. Give people what they want and they just might buy it!




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#25
la riviera del 65 se non sbaglio ? stata una delle prime ad avere i fanali a scomparsa elettrici (e davano non pochi problemi da come si sente in giro)



se vi va ed ho un attimo di tempo posto le foto della mia '69 e del meccanismo di apertura

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#26
[quote name='m4d1s0n' post='259905' date='11/12/2009, 14:56']la riviera del 65 se non sbaglio ? stata una delle prime ad avere i fanali a scomparsa elettrici (e davano non pochi problemi da come si sente in giro)



se vi va ed ho un attimo di tempo posto le foto della mia '69 e del meccanismo di apertura[/quote]





Allora 'ste foto???? <img src="https://www.usacarsforum.it/forum/images/smilies/confused.png" alt="Confused" title="Confused" class="smilie smilie_13" />archaha:

Ci sono 160 miglia da qui a Chicago. Abbiamo il serbatoio pieno, mezzo pacchetto di sigarette, è buio e portiamo tutti e due gli occhiali scuri. Vai!

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#27
ma la legge italiana permette di omologare dei veicoli senza possibilit? di lampeggiare? o bisogna aggiungere dei fanali supplementari?
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#28
[quote name='gigisfan' post='273364' date='22/2/2010, 22:22']ma la legge italiana permette di omologare dei veicoli senza possibilit? di lampeggiare? o bisogna aggiungere dei fanali supplementari?[/quote]



io ho la trans am e non ho avuto nessuno problema,



aneddoto : all'ultima revisione l'impiegato ha chiesto : 'ma perch? manca la spia degli annabaglianti?'



il mio meccanico ha acceso i fari che si sono alzati e ha detto : "se non li vedi ? meglio starsene a casa". L'impiegato non ha proferito parola.
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......il fari a scomparsa della mia cougar..

t.bird
se da dietro mi lampeggi, io penso che saluti, se mi vuoi superare una gara devi fare se riesci nell'intento, è giunto il tuo momento di manico portento.

se apro lo sportello ad una donna o....... l'auto nuova o..... la donna è nuova
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......il fari a scomparsa della mia cougar..

t.bird

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Cooooooooooooooooooooooooool :ok:
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